1 00:00:10,174 --> 00:00:13,016 So, my name is Nina Paley, and I'm an artist. 2 00:00:13,116 --> 00:00:16,227 I made a feature film called "Sita Sings the Blues". 3 00:00:19,049 --> 00:00:22,408 In 2012 I freed "Sita Sings the Blues" 4 00:00:22,866 --> 00:00:25,716 under a Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license, 5 00:00:25,816 --> 00:00:27,183 copyleft license***. 6 00:00:27,283 --> 00:00:29,689 That was after a ***** **** year 7 00:00:29,789 --> 00:00:33,503 of navigating the copyright licensing world. 8 00:00:33,603 --> 00:00:35,911 And this chart shows you a result of that. 9 00:00:36,011 --> 00:00:37,659 All these different songs licensed 10 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:40,334 from all these different corporations for all this money. 11 00:00:40,692 --> 00:00:44,286 You know, songs owned by multiple people. Bam. 12 00:00:44,386 --> 00:00:47,121 Anyway, I'm going to show you the trailer. 13 00:00:47,279 --> 00:00:50,824 So, I hope we have audio, and we should turn off the lights. 14 00:00:52,417 --> 00:00:53,534 Here we go. 15 00:00:53,634 --> 00:00:55,130 But you know what Sita does then? 16 00:00:55,230 --> 00:00:57,622 How she actually is able to tell these people where she… 17 00:00:57,722 --> 00:01:00,659 She drops her jewelry along the way. 18 00:01:00,854 --> 00:01:03,497 And that's how they were able to find her. 19 00:01:03,597 --> 00:01:05,745 It went all the way to Lanka. 20 00:01:06,727 --> 00:01:09,283 How many times did she drop the jewelry? 21 00:01:09,383 --> 00:01:12,436 She was wearing a whole lot of jewelry in the forest. 22 00:01:12,536 --> 00:01:15,333 I mean, no, remember, she's not wearing any jewelry 23 00:01:15,433 --> 00:01:18,408 'cause she left everything before she left Ayodhya and she came… 24 00:01:18,508 --> 00:01:20,018 Oh, she left everything? 25 00:01:20,118 --> 00:01:22,685 Right, she just came in her Sanyasi clothes. 26 00:02:35,422 --> 00:02:37,224 So, my boyfriend told me 27 00:02:37,324 --> 00:02:40,629 to put ***** ********** ***** take me seriously. 28 00:02:46,663 --> 00:02:48,991 And it's a lot of people have seen it. 29 00:02:49,091 --> 00:02:51,275 After I released "Sita Sings the Blues", 30 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:54,481 I joined QuestionCopyright.org as an artist-in-residence. 31 00:02:54,581 --> 00:02:57,803 QuestionCopyright.org does not do any political lobbying. 32 00:02:57,903 --> 00:03:01,250 We don't focus on the law, but according to the website, 33 00:03:01,521 --> 00:03:04,474 "We are trying to change the terms of the debates 34 00:03:04,574 --> 00:03:08,104 "so that copyright reform efforts aren't stuck always reacting 35 00:03:08,204 --> 00:03:11,914 "to industry rhetoric that equates copying with theft, plagiarism, 36 00:03:12,084 --> 00:03:15,224 "and the abuse or destruction of the original work." 37 00:03:16,714 --> 00:03:20,651 With QuestionCopyright I did a project called "Minute Memes". 38 00:03:20,751 --> 00:03:23,244 It's a series of animated shorts. 39 00:03:23,578 --> 00:03:27,123 They're supposed all be a minute. One of them is 2.5 minute. 40 00:03:27,355 --> 00:03:31,692 And they are about sort of reframing the copyright debate 41 00:03:31,792 --> 00:03:33,450 or about some concept 42 00:03:33,550 --> 00:03:37,580 that needs to be addressed in the copyright debate. 43 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,636 So, I'm going to show 2 of these. 44 00:03:39,736 --> 00:03:42,350 The 1st one is called "Copying Is Not Theft", 45 00:03:42,463 --> 00:03:46,717 and it addresses the idea that copying is theft which is not true. 46 00:03:47,269 --> 00:03:48,609 Here we go. 47 00:03:50,069 --> 00:03:53,794 And by the way, do you get those things here when you buy a DVD? 48 00:03:55,629 --> 00:03:58,769 So this is the 1st frame of "Copying Is Not Theft". 49 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,340 Copying is not theft. 50 00:04:09,153 --> 00:04:11,708 Stealing a thing leaves one less left. 51 00:04:11,823 --> 00:04:14,311 Copying it makes one thing more, 52 00:04:14,568 --> 00:04:16,583 that's what copying's for. 53 00:04:17,194 --> 00:04:18,984 Copying is not theft. 54 00:04:19,717 --> 00:04:22,075 If I copy yours you have it too. 55 00:04:22,503 --> 00:04:24,699 One for me and one for you, 56 00:04:25,123 --> 00:04:27,138 that's what copies can do. 57 00:04:27,781 --> 00:04:30,269 If I steal your bicycle, 58 00:04:30,384 --> 00:04:32,467 you have to take the bus, 59 00:04:33,158 --> 00:04:35,317 but if I just copy it, 60 00:04:35,461 --> 00:04:37,750 there's one for each of us! 61 00:04:38,428 --> 00:04:40,308 Making more of a thing, 62 00:04:41,031 --> 00:04:43,360 that is what we call "copying". 63 00:04:43,765 --> 00:04:46,151 Sharing ideas with everyone, 64 00:04:46,472 --> 00:04:48,127 that's why copying 65 00:04:48,499 --> 00:04:51,055 is fun! 66 00:05:00,907 --> 00:05:04,885 Okay. The next one is called "All Creative Work Is Derivative". 67 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,076 This one is the long one, so relax. 68 00:07:34,792 --> 00:07:38,016 So, I'm an artist and an activist. 69 00:07:38,116 --> 00:07:41,120 And after 3 years of working with QuestionCopyright.org 70 00:07:41,220 --> 00:07:44,041 I realized that the most effective activism I could do 71 00:07:44,141 --> 00:07:46,395 was to be an artist, was to make art, 72 00:07:46,495 --> 00:07:48,839 the best art I could make, and free it. 73 00:07:48,939 --> 00:07:52,371 And it turns out that that's the most radical activism I can do, 74 00:07:52,471 --> 00:07:54,411 because it's the riskiest. 75 00:07:54,638 --> 00:07:59,153 Calling my muse inevitably leads me to violate copyright law. 76 00:07:59,253 --> 00:08:02,145 And if I'm willing to be the artist that I am, 77 00:08:02,425 --> 00:08:04,530 I'm going to take that risk. 78 00:08:05,175 --> 00:08:07,200 So, what about copyright law? 79 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:09,628 In August of this year Rick Falkvinge, 80 00:08:09,728 --> 00:08:12,497 who is the founder of the Swedish Pirate Party, 81 00:08:12,597 --> 00:08:14,592 published an article called 82 00:08:21,066 --> 00:08:23,468 And from that article here is a quote, 83 00:08:23,568 --> 00:08:26,519 "People who think they have the moral right to control 84 00:08:26,619 --> 00:08:30,625 "what other people discuss, transmit, use, and copy 85 00:08:30,764 --> 00:08:34,116 "simply are not going to abandon that point of view. 86 00:08:34,484 --> 00:08:38,830 "They will assert that right as superior to any civil liberty, forever. 87 00:08:39,194 --> 00:08:41,443 "… Viewpoints of society don’t change 88 00:08:41,543 --> 00:08:43,585 "because people in society change. 89 00:08:43,685 --> 00:08:45,571 "Viewpoints of society change 90 00:08:45,671 --> 00:08:49,166 "because people defending the obsolete viewpoint die out. 91 00:08:49,266 --> 00:08:53,551 "In other words, prepare for another 40 years of corporate bullshit." 92 00:08:55,576 --> 00:08:57,501 So, the question for*** me 93 00:08:58,336 --> 00:09:01,781 is "What do we do," whoops, "for the next 40 years?" 94 00:09:06,516 --> 00:09:08,716 Sorry. 95 00:09:08,816 --> 00:09:11,848 So, the 1st thing we could do, which many people are doing, 96 00:09:11,948 --> 00:09:14,134 is try to work with the law. 97 00:09:14,234 --> 00:09:17,522 And there are 2 main ways people are doing this in United States. 98 00:09:17,622 --> 00:09:20,464 The 1st is expanding fair use. 99 00:09:20,766 --> 00:09:24,053 Fair use is the so called exceptions to copyright law, 100 00:09:24,403 --> 00:09:28,890 and they include parody, in US **** ****** parody, but not satire, 101 00:09:29,476 --> 00:09:33,962 some transformative uses, some educational uses, commentaries, 102 00:09:34,062 --> 00:09:37,817 and making backup copies for personal use sometimes. 103 00:09:39,359 --> 00:09:43,751 Unfortunately, fair use is fairly weak in US courts, 104 00:09:46,273 --> 00:09:49,027 US courts have made many decisions against it 105 00:09:49,127 --> 00:09:52,873 and it costs lots of money and employs lots of lawyers to assert it. 106 00:09:53,179 --> 00:09:56,117 That's said, I do believe in fair use. 107 00:09:56,217 --> 00:10:00,526 And it's definitely worth working on making it more robust. 108 00:10:02,572 --> 00:10:05,352 Another strategy for working within the law 109 00:10:05,474 --> 00:10:07,960 is promoting free licenses, 110 00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:10,372 usually that means Creative Commons licenses. 111 00:10:10,472 --> 00:10:12,028 I release "Sita Sings the Blues" 112 00:10:12,128 --> 00:10:14,557 under Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license, 113 00:10:14,657 --> 00:10:16,780 that's a strong copyleft license. 114 00:10:17,442 --> 00:10:20,262 Creative Commons offers all kinds of licenses, 115 00:10:20,362 --> 00:10:23,546 and most of them are not actually free licenses, 116 00:10:23,646 --> 00:10:25,934 so that's sort of one problem 117 00:10:26,034 --> 00:10:28,318 with that as a solution 118 00:10:28,722 --> 00:10:31,103 to the problems of copyright. 119 00:10:31,392 --> 00:10:34,606 But the bigger problem is that most culture 120 00:10:34,706 --> 00:10:38,388 is not under free license and is not going to be under free license. 121 00:10:38,488 --> 00:10:40,730 Our whole history, the last 100 years… 122 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:42,327 There is almost no way 123 00:10:42,427 --> 00:10:45,076 to get the last 100 years of works under free licenses. 124 00:10:45,176 --> 00:10:47,586 You can do it now, and I do it with my work, 125 00:10:47,686 --> 00:10:51,476 but our shared cultural history is still not accessible to us. 126 00:10:51,616 --> 00:10:54,835 I've actually been encouraged by some people 127 00:10:54,935 --> 00:10:57,309 just to ignore works that aren't under free licenses. 128 00:10:57,409 --> 00:10:59,457 And for me it's like I have to ignore history, 129 00:10:59,557 --> 00:11:02,092 I have to ignore culture, I have to ignore, 130 00:11:02,192 --> 00:11:05,123 you know, my species, that's all around me. 131 00:11:05,567 --> 00:11:08,122 So that's not really ******* solution. 132 00:11:09,667 --> 00:11:13,551 So, what about solutions 133 00:11:13,651 --> 00:11:16,100 that are not directly involved with the law? 134 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,756 One of them is what I call an "unlicense", 135 00:11:20,856 --> 00:11:25,811 although I do use Creative Commons Share Alike license. 136 00:11:26,028 --> 00:11:27,791 Pretty much all of my work now 137 00:11:27,891 --> 00:11:29,622 I put what I call a copyheart message on. 138 00:11:29,722 --> 00:11:32,025 It's not a license, it's just a message that says, 139 00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:34,923 "Copying is an active love. Please, copy and share." 140 00:11:35,023 --> 00:11:39,122 instead of a "c" within, you know, circle, it's just a little heart. 141 00:11:39,222 --> 00:11:42,992 It's not a license; it does not have any legal code behind it; 142 00:11:43,302 --> 00:11:46,493 it's not about the law; it's not enforced by the state. 143 00:11:46,593 --> 00:11:49,909 But I like it for this reason because it bypasses the law. 144 00:11:50,009 --> 00:11:53,590 And I'm trying to reach people on a level that's not law. 145 00:11:53,690 --> 00:11:56,238 Trying to reach people on the level of love really, 146 00:11:56,338 --> 00:11:58,801 which is how culture reaches us. 147 00:12:01,791 --> 00:12:06,532 And then the most popular thing to do 148 00:12:06,756 --> 00:12:08,747 is to ignore the law altogether. 149 00:12:08,847 --> 00:12:10,872 And that is what's happening in the world. 150 00:12:10,972 --> 00:12:13,210 It's happening in US; it's happening here. 151 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:15,288 It's a very simple solution. 152 00:12:15,388 --> 00:12:18,366 It has nothing to do with theory or activism 153 00:12:18,466 --> 00:12:22,244 or formally licensed free culture or anything you or I say. 154 00:12:22,599 --> 00:12:25,527 I do a lot of speaking about this and… 155 00:12:26,172 --> 00:12:29,039 What's very exciting to me is that this movement 156 00:12:29,139 --> 00:12:31,655 of people sharing files and sharing culture… 157 00:12:31,755 --> 00:12:34,306 It doesn't matter what I say. People are doing it anyway. 158 00:12:34,406 --> 00:12:36,373 And more people doing it all the time. 159 00:12:36,473 --> 00:12:38,525 It's a very powerful popular movement. 160 00:12:38,625 --> 00:12:40,526 And it's just a natural outcome 161 00:12:40,626 --> 00:12:43,900 of digital technology and the human right to share culture. 162 00:12:44,527 --> 00:12:46,722 And that is sort of related to 163 00:12:47,730 --> 00:12:49,931 copyright civil disobedience 164 00:12:50,031 --> 00:12:53,494 which is how I'm framing my activism now. 165 00:12:53,928 --> 00:12:56,619 I also call it "intellectual disobedience". 166 00:12:56,719 --> 00:12:59,689 Civil disobedience is defined variously as, 167 00:12:59,789 --> 00:13:03,125 "the refusal to comply with certain laws 168 00:13:03,225 --> 00:13:05,463 "as a peaceful from of protest," 169 00:13:05,591 --> 00:13:10,028 and, "refusal to obey governmental demands or commands 170 00:13:10,128 --> 00:13:13,924 "especially as a non-violent and usually collective means 171 00:13:14,098 --> 00:13:16,743 "of forcing concessions from government." 172 00:13:17,244 --> 00:13:20,225 So sometimes disobedience is to change government, 173 00:13:20,325 --> 00:13:23,861 and sometimes it is just to have moral integrity. 174 00:13:26,131 --> 00:13:28,700 So as an artist, I build on works that I love, 175 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,707 and that have historical resonance, 176 00:13:30,807 --> 00:13:33,245 and that touch me on some profound level. 177 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:36,839 Cultural connection is a tender and delicate thing. 178 00:13:36,939 --> 00:13:38,986 It is an expression of love. 179 00:13:39,148 --> 00:13:43,185 The law aspires to be a hard codified set of rules. 180 00:13:43,773 --> 00:13:47,588 Couple years ago I set out to listen to my heart above*** the law. 181 00:13:47,724 --> 00:13:51,305 This takes some discipline. I'm in the habit of self-censorship 182 00:13:51,405 --> 00:13:55,474 and have trained myself to recoil from certain kinds of culture out of fear, 183 00:13:55,574 --> 00:13:58,302 fear so ingrained I don't even register it. 184 00:13:59,861 --> 00:14:03,059 But because I ***consciously set out to ignore copyright, 185 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:05,958 before I even knew what my next project would be, 186 00:14:06,058 --> 00:14:09,219 I caught myself in the act of denying inspiration. 187 00:14:09,787 --> 00:14:12,957 The song was "Go Down Moses" performed by Louis Armstrong. 188 00:14:13,057 --> 00:14:15,035 I was thinking about making a movie 189 00:14:15,135 --> 00:14:18,343 based on the Book of Exodus from the Bible, the Old Testament. 190 00:14:18,443 --> 00:14:20,865 And I was researching music on the theme. 191 00:14:20,965 --> 00:14:24,352 The song was perfect, and I immediately dismissed it without thinking. 192 00:14:24,452 --> 00:14:27,125 Than I remembered my promise to ignore copyright, 193 00:14:27,225 --> 00:14:30,947 that I'd committed to disobeying the law before disobeying my muse. 194 00:14:31,047 --> 00:14:33,884 Realizing I'd censored myself led me to reconsider. 195 00:14:33,984 --> 00:14:37,031 The song really is perfect, and now I have a scene plan for it, 196 00:14:37,131 --> 00:14:39,362 although I had not animated it yet. 197 00:14:40,133 --> 00:14:42,534 Since than I'm giving myself permission 198 00:14:42,634 --> 00:14:45,469 to use any song that inspires me. 199 00:14:45,781 --> 00:14:51,017 My criterion for selecting songs or images or anything, themes 200 00:14:51,117 --> 00:14:53,096 is what is best for the art. 201 00:14:53,196 --> 00:14:56,853 I'm serving the art; I'm serving the project; I'm serving culture. 202 00:14:56,953 --> 00:14:59,006 And I'm sorry, copyright fans, 203 00:14:59,106 --> 00:15:01,673 but in my world culture is not property. 204 00:15:01,925 --> 00:15:05,732 Copying is an active love, and no amount of arguing will change that. 205 00:15:05,832 --> 00:15:07,498 Just as Rick Falkvinge says, 206 00:15:07,598 --> 00:15:09,987 "People who think they have the moral right to control 207 00:15:10,087 --> 00:15:12,860 "what other people discuss, transmit, use, and copy 208 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,045 "simply are not going to abandon that point of view." 209 00:15:16,145 --> 00:15:19,925 So I will never abandon my love of culture and freedom of expression. 210 00:15:20,025 --> 00:15:23,776 So you can drag me to the guillotine, but I'm not going to recant. 211 00:15:23,961 --> 00:15:27,129 I haven't made the Louis Armstrong piece yet, but I did use 212 00:15:27,229 --> 00:15:30,137 another fully copyrighted work called "This Land Is Mine", 213 00:15:30,237 --> 00:15:33,395 song by Andy Williams, lyrics are by Pat Boone, 214 00:15:33,495 --> 00:15:37,371 and the melody is by Ernest Gold from the 1960 movie "Exodus". 215 00:15:37,585 --> 00:15:40,915 I'm glad to show you this clip. It's actually the last scene 216 00:15:41,015 --> 00:15:43,599 of my new movie which is called "Seder-Masochism". 217 00:15:43,699 --> 00:15:45,457 But it's the 1st I animated. 218 00:15:45,557 --> 00:15:50,445 It may enhance your enjoyment of this clip 219 00:15:50,545 --> 00:15:54,204 to know that the movie "Exodus" has been called a "Zionist epic" 220 00:15:54,822 --> 00:15:59,851 and the song "This Land Is Mine" was phenomenally popular in 1960s 221 00:15:59,951 --> 00:16:03,394 and was a kind of theme song for Israel as a Jewish state. 222 00:16:03,628 --> 00:16:07,304 So this is 3.5 minute. 223 00:16:09,460 --> 00:16:10,980 And here we go. 224 00:16:28,216 --> 00:16:34,052 This land is mine, 225 00:16:34,611 --> 00:16:40,463 God gave this land to me, 226 00:16:41,212 --> 00:16:51,796 this brave and ancient land to me. 227 00:16:52,916 --> 00:16:57,361 And when the morning sun 228 00:16:58,287 --> 00:17:03,204 reveals her hills and plains, 229 00:17:04,859 --> 00:17:07,876 then I see a land 230 00:17:08,422 --> 00:17:14,465 where children can run free. 231 00:17:16,556 --> 00:17:21,476 So take my hand 232 00:17:22,522 --> 00:17:26,809 and walk this land with me, 233 00:17:28,112 --> 00:17:36,777 and walk this lovely land with me. 234 00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:43,226 Though I am just a man, 235 00:17:44,236 --> 00:17:49,624 when you are by my side, 236 00:17:51,211 --> 00:17:54,286 with the help of God, 237 00:17:55,586 --> 00:18:02,327 I know I can be strong. 238 00:18:24,473 --> 00:18:30,381 Though I am just a man, 239 00:18:30,798 --> 00:18:36,751 when you are by my side, 240 00:18:37,677 --> 00:18:40,918 with the help of God, 241 00:18:41,378 --> 00:18:48,975 I know I can be strong 242 00:18:49,843 --> 00:18:53,881 to make this land our home. 243 00:18:55,746 --> 00:19:01,320 If I must fight, I'll fight 244 00:19:01,602 --> 00:19:05,809 to make this land our own. 245 00:19:07,169 --> 00:19:11,479 Until I die… 246 00:19:11,986 --> 00:19:21,615 This land is mine. 247 00:19:42,755 --> 00:19:44,770 See, that's the copyheart. 248 00:19:45,742 --> 00:19:48,772 Copying is an active love. Please, copy and share. 249 00:19:48,872 --> 00:19:53,172 So, I am a Jew, and I have this Jew card to prove it. 250 00:19:53,272 --> 00:19:54,947 And I have more Jew cards, 251 00:19:55,047 --> 00:19:58,191 so if anybody wants a Jew card, please, come up to me, 252 00:19:58,291 --> 00:20:01,175 I have enough to share, just fill in your name. 253 00:20:03,608 --> 00:20:07,514 There's actually a pretty strong fair use argument for this cartoon 254 00:20:07,614 --> 00:20:09,403 because it is parody meaning 255 00:20:09,503 --> 00:20:11,826 that it does comment on the song itself. 256 00:20:11,926 --> 00:20:15,391 There are probably some lawyers out there --somewhere in the world-- 257 00:20:15,491 --> 00:20:17,822 willing to defend me if I'm sued over it. 258 00:20:17,922 --> 00:20:20,866 However, not all my uses of music in "Seder-Masochism" 259 00:20:20,966 --> 00:20:22,644 will be as clear-cut. 260 00:20:22,744 --> 00:20:25,898 They are all transformative which should be fair use, 261 00:20:26,209 --> 00:20:30,159 but they are not necessarily parody and not necessarily political***. 262 00:20:30,406 --> 00:20:32,610 The scene I'm currently working on 263 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:35,273 is about the latter parts of the Book of Exodus 264 00:20:35,373 --> 00:20:37,542 including ******** animal sacrifice 265 00:20:37,642 --> 00:20:40,144 and the construction of the Tabernacle. 266 00:20:40,869 --> 00:20:44,612 You know, I've read Exodus for the 1st time like a year ago. 267 00:20:44,712 --> 00:20:46,983 Just researching it. It's a long story. 268 00:20:47,083 --> 00:20:50,453 I grew up observing Passover but never haven't read Exodus. 269 00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:53,188 So I've under a minute of animation to show you, 270 00:20:53,288 --> 00:20:55,074 but I did make some placeholders 271 00:20:55,174 --> 00:20:57,199 so this minute of the song will be consistent. 272 00:20:57,299 --> 00:20:59,189 You'll see a big sing that says "placeholder". 273 00:20:59,289 --> 00:21:01,142 Please, know that this is a work in progress. 274 00:21:01,242 --> 00:21:03,610 Things are going to change, they'll be camera moves. 275 00:21:03,710 --> 00:21:05,459 Just a work in progress. 276 00:21:05,889 --> 00:21:09,974 And a song is a surprise. So here we go. 277 00:21:29,574 --> 00:21:33,828 Too many broken hearts have fallen in the river. 278 00:21:34,143 --> 00:21:38,057 Too many lonely souls have drifted out to sea. 279 00:21:38,762 --> 00:21:41,607 You lay your bets, and then you pay the price. 280 00:21:41,707 --> 00:21:45,767 The things we do for love, the things we do for love. 281 00:21:47,985 --> 00:21:51,965 Communication is the problem to the answer. 282 00:21:52,554 --> 00:21:56,401 You've got her number, and your hand is on the phone. 283 00:21:56,933 --> 00:21:59,844 The weathers turned, and all the lines are down. 284 00:21:59,944 --> 00:22:03,951 The things we do for love, the things we do for love. 285 00:22:04,506 --> 00:22:07,494 Like walking in the rain and the snow 286 00:22:07,594 --> 00:22:09,826 when there's nowhere to go, 287 00:22:09,926 --> 00:22:13,548 when you're feeling like a part of you is dying. 288 00:22:14,502 --> 00:22:17,943 And you're looking for the answer in her eyes. 289 00:22:19,128 --> 00:22:21,318 You think you're gonna break up, 290 00:22:21,418 --> 00:22:24,512 then she says she wants to make up. 291 00:22:24,612 --> 00:22:26,696 "The Things We Do for Love" by 10cc 292 00:22:26,796 --> 00:22:28,750 Okay, that's all I have there. 293 00:22:32,379 --> 00:22:36,336 So, as you can see, the content of this work 294 00:22:36,436 --> 00:22:38,815 has nothing to do with copyright, 295 00:22:38,915 --> 00:22:40,792 but it's production and released to. 296 00:22:40,892 --> 00:22:43,960 And it's very exciting for me as an artist to be able to do 297 00:22:44,060 --> 00:22:46,474 all of this stuff, like art, like real art, 298 00:22:46,574 --> 00:22:49,921 that's not just writing more essays about copyright, 299 00:22:50,127 --> 00:22:53,617 but really getting into copyright stuff 300 00:22:53,717 --> 00:22:56,817 and, you know, political activism 301 00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,998 just by making and releasing the film. 302 00:22:59,098 --> 00:23:01,387 So, speaking of making and releasing the film, 303 00:23:01,487 --> 00:23:03,336 how am I going to do that? 304 00:23:03,681 --> 00:23:07,222 So step 1 is I'm going to make the movie I want to make, 305 00:23:07,322 --> 00:23:09,042 I'm going to ignore copyright, 306 00:23:09,142 --> 00:23:11,630 and I'm not going to ask for permission from anyone 307 00:23:11,730 --> 00:23:13,170 as a matter of principle. 308 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:14,700 And give me 3 years to do that. 309 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,582 It'll take out 3 years to make this film. 310 00:23:16,682 --> 00:23:20,104 Maybe it'll take a little bit longer. It's not like I have any deadline. 311 00:23:20,204 --> 00:23:22,776 Step 2 is 312 00:23:22,876 --> 00:23:25,649 I'm going to release a legal redacted version 313 00:23:25,749 --> 00:23:28,840 with all of the songs, all the contentious songs, will be removed. 314 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:30,859 So you will be able to buy a DVD 315 00:23:30,959 --> 00:23:34,215 but wherever one of these contentious copyrighted songs comes in, 316 00:23:34,315 --> 00:23:36,987 it'll just turn it off and replace it with commentary 317 00:23:37,087 --> 00:23:39,962 perhaps explaining why those songs aren't there 318 00:23:40,062 --> 00:23:42,278 and perhaps explaining the state of the law 319 00:23:42,378 --> 00:23:44,937 that prohibits those songs from being there legally. 320 00:23:45,037 --> 00:23:47,306 It will be legal to sell such a DVD. 321 00:23:48,530 --> 00:23:52,380 And in so doing, it'll actually encourage people 322 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,731 to find the real version on sharing sites 323 00:23:55,831 --> 00:23:59,929 which are proliferating and for which I'm very very grateful. 324 00:24:00,029 --> 00:24:01,847 I actually am incompetent 325 00:24:01,947 --> 00:24:06,585 and have yet to successfully use BitTorrent or anything like it, 326 00:24:06,685 --> 00:24:09,054 but I am aware that 327 00:24:10,594 --> 00:24:15,034 I owe a great debt to the people that create and use these systems. 328 00:24:15,134 --> 00:24:17,524 And I want to encourage more use of them. 329 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,285 So "Sita Sings the Blues" 330 00:24:19,385 --> 00:24:23,273 where I painstakingly and expensively legally cleared all those old songs 331 00:24:23,373 --> 00:24:25,951 that were supposed to be in the public domain in the 1980s 332 00:24:26,051 --> 00:24:27,893 but don't even getting*** started. 333 00:24:27,993 --> 00:24:31,083 I did all that to encourage legal sharing. 334 00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:35,040 "Seder-Masochism", I'm going to redact all those songs 335 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:38,395 to encourage finding the world beyond copyright law 336 00:24:38,495 --> 00:24:40,854 and thanking those who created it. 337 00:24:42,871 --> 00:24:44,526 Now what about money? 338 00:24:44,626 --> 00:24:47,331 Well, to make money, I sell scarce goods 339 00:24:47,431 --> 00:24:52,076 like T-shirts and prints and plastic disks and all kinds of things. 340 00:24:52,330 --> 00:24:55,110 None of this will contain copyrighted music. 341 00:24:55,210 --> 00:24:57,193 The more free content is shared, 342 00:24:57,293 --> 00:24:59,720 the greater the demand for scarce containers of it, 343 00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:02,932 that's what I learned with my free movie "Sita Sings the Blues". 344 00:25:03,032 --> 00:25:07,424 I'd never made more money in my life than when I freed my work. 345 00:25:07,524 --> 00:25:10,642 The previous 25 years of my work 346 00:25:10,742 --> 00:25:13,439 is all locked up or was locked up on copyright. 347 00:25:13,539 --> 00:25:15,246 So the light bulb went off. 348 00:25:15,346 --> 00:25:17,885 And that is when I actually started making money. 349 00:25:17,985 --> 00:25:21,832 And actually, I can talk at length 350 00:25:21,932 --> 00:25:26,524 about how I get more money by freeing my work, but to sum it up 351 00:25:26,624 --> 00:25:30,210 it's you use the unlimited resource to sell the limited resource. 352 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:33,804 You know, my business is selling limited resources 353 00:25:33,904 --> 00:25:38,487 like items***, like objects, T-shirts, and disks. 354 00:25:39,415 --> 00:25:44,258 So, I'm all set*** except for how to show the movie in public. 355 00:25:44,424 --> 00:25:46,887 My dream is for people to be able 356 00:25:46,987 --> 00:25:49,885 to view it in public on a large screen together. 357 00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:53,496 Unfortunately, because of the law, 358 00:25:54,322 --> 00:25:57,178 that would be very very risky for a venue to do 359 00:25:57,278 --> 00:26:00,609 because then the venue would be possibly doing civil disobedience 360 00:26:00,709 --> 00:26:01,942 along with me. 361 00:26:02,042 --> 00:26:03,607 So the question I have is 362 00:26:03,707 --> 00:26:06,774 will copyright be sufficiently reformed anywhere in the world 363 00:26:06,874 --> 00:26:10,276 for my film "Seder-Masochism" to have a theatrical premiere. 364 00:26:11,533 --> 00:26:13,688 Will it premiere in Afghanistan? 365 00:26:13,788 --> 00:26:16,528 Supposedly, Afghanistan has no copyright law right now. 366 00:26:16,628 --> 00:26:18,701 So that's pretty good candidate. 367 00:26:19,981 --> 00:26:21,822 Will it be Iceland? 368 00:26:21,922 --> 00:26:25,366 Is anybody here heard of the Modern Media Initiative in Iceland? 369 00:26:25,466 --> 00:26:28,597 It's pretty cool what they are doing there. It's taking a while, 370 00:26:28,697 --> 00:26:31,749 but they have this idea for becoming a free speech heaven. 371 00:26:31,849 --> 00:26:34,451 And if they expand fair use sufficiently, 372 00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:37,543 I may be able to premiere it there. So go Iceland. 373 00:26:37,965 --> 00:26:41,787 Or could it be Poland? 374 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,540 You know, certainly it'll be Poland 375 00:26:46,032 --> 00:26:47,899 before the United States. 376 00:26:47,999 --> 00:26:50,734 So, you know, my hope is that 377 00:26:51,318 --> 00:26:53,366 you will make it possible for me 378 00:26:53,466 --> 00:26:56,406 to see you again in 3 years with this movie. 379 00:26:56,538 --> 00:26:58,913 Thank you very much for having me.